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are mp3's good for artists |
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DeadlyDan
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if napster never came along i personally would have never bought any of my cd's, i was musically dumb due the fact i didn't have money to buy a cd and "hope" it's good.
But with mp3's sharing i was able experiment into seeing what music i liked, and now i am a huge consumer due to the fact of napster and "K" sharing program.
also file sharing isn't horrible, if it was then why in then why has sales records gone through the roff since napster?
the largest grossing album of all time, was broken twice since file sharing began, by nsync and backstree boys or something.
And artists, are selling more records then ever.
In Canada,U.S and most of Europe file sharing is good for the market.
If it wasn't for file sharing i would never have bought the cd's i have.
also, in poorer countries,like mexico, it's not the mp3's are rampant,(you need a computer for that) it's the burnt cd's being sold for 2 dollars each.
though if you only make 20 dollars a week, are u going to buy a new slinky world cd for 40 dollars? probably not.
anyway, thats my .02
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hmm, im afraid that your poll, grossly misrepresents the whole issue, its not just a clear cut issue, that "ok yes they are good for blah blah blah" or "they are bad blah blah blah"
if you look at many artists opinons bout it, they say roughly lines of
"yeah mp3's are good for promotion, and part in due got me where i am 2day, but on the other hand they deprive an artist of one of his sole incomes, and in part must have a more regulated way of thing going round it"
or sum variation, along the lines of that, its not clearcut, and at most there answers kinda make that point
Quote: | But with mp3's sharing i was able experiment into seeing what music i liked, and now i am a huge consumer due to the fact of napster and "K" sharing program. |
an argument for that is, nowadays you can listen to any cd, or vinyl at turntable on virtually all of the hmv's and other big sized music stores, and how did ppl, experiment and discover music before the advent of mp3 and filesharing? they just didnt blindly listen as they would've sampled music, since the dawn of recorded music,
and the "it saves me time argument doesnt hold water, as it just takes long to listen to mp3's as it does on cd's, granted one small advantage is that you can pick and mix tracks and listen to any number of variation without having to skip the same songs as there on the several cds, but this is a small advantage, not a terribly huge one
Quote: | also file sharing isn't horrible, if it was then why in then why has sales records gone through the roff since napster?
the largest grossing album of all time, was broken twice since file sharing began, by nsync and backstree boys or something. |
one thing ive noticed is Never Ever Quote Statistics, about music sales, the RIAA and record companies have huge departments chewing and spitting out more statistics than you'll ever find in a national census, im not kidding
plus i can say 40% of statistics are wrong
what 40% of what statistics exactly, what about the other 60%,
get my drift you can spin statistics into almost anyshape and form to reflect any side of the situation
and you Quote: | mention sales records have gone thro the roof |
, what sales of what records exactly, what genre, cd or vinyl, what year, what band,what country...see what im getting at, its too much of a pain
Quote: | the largest grossing album of all time, was broken twice since file sharing began, by nsync and backstree boys or something. |
and how many times did the particular record break, before the advent of file sharing, a hell lot more than twice i guarntee that, as file sharing is new, and music sales/distribution would've exisited 10 times longer than the life of mp3/file sharing
again, if that, doesnt make it apparent, then imagine what the record comapnies/RIAA would be able to do with that
[quote]In Canada,U.S and most of Europe file sharing is good for the market.
notice that the US and Canada and europe, have the most aggresive copyright/filesharing stance and yet the number of copyright infringemts pale in comaprison with other countires like China, and russia,
Quote: | also, in poorer countries,like mexico, it's not the mp3's are rampant,(you need a computer for that) it's the burnt cd's being sold for 2 dollars each. |
err, whats the source of sumof these burnt cd's yes mp3's downloaded of the net and burnt onto cd, considering say you have an cd album in ISO, (ie exact bit content of the cd) now cd tracks are often = 1411 kbps, but an mp3 track at say 128 or 160 is often 1/12 to 1/10 the size of that, and your avg person aint gonna know a whopping big differnce between the 2, and since its gonna take less time to download the mp3, theoretically a 10 times quicker, whats the seller gonna go for? pretty obvious
so the record compaines can use this as an excuse again to target file sharing and mp3's
i just tried to stick points that i think would encourage further and diverse points, and ideas, that would in turn spawn into a great debate, i like debates, and i know that the ivibes users can sure give one, and hopefully it will educate and prove intresting to other people maybe,
and i dont hate mp3's, in fact im more in favour considering their amazing potential and the ignorance of record executives that could turn this into their and our advantage,
anyways, anyone feel free to discuss/engage any points,aspects on this post freely ,
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if they took mp3's off the net i wouldnt buy any more CD's than i currently do...
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((-&E-)) wrote: | if they took mp3's off the net i wouldnt buy any more CD's than i currently do...  |
same here..... without MP3 how am i suppose know if its good or not.
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