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the in my opinion way underrated track on the perfecto label was made by two woman?
Yes it is !
Another thing that I want to say is that this "huge"progressive trancer isnt as huge as it SHOULD be.
Why this track is so underrated ????
Why "we" dont push a track like THIS to the TOP. If a track from ferry or armin or every other well known producer is released everybody is excited by it. For example DANCEVALLEY 2000 and MARCO V - GODD Arrow if I must compare those 2 tracks with konkrete, my choice is easily made. But why you think everyone loves them, just because they are from well know producers.
GIVE GOOD QUALITY TRACKS LIKE THIS ONE A CHANCE. I hate tracks that are purely based to hit high in the charts.
And it seems to work too. Most people get pulled by the media.
Just love a song because you love it, dont love a song because anyone else loves!
Also i nice example is flight643. What is so special about this track??????
Its just **** boring!
But what everyone forgets is that there are more tracks and better tracks out there like konkrete.

Just wanna say this.
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i totally dis-agree to everything u said there... that song sux !! flight643, godd and dancevalley theme totally rool - and its not the fookin' artist that counts, (i.e. how famous) cept sometimes there is abit of hype about release dates and so forth.
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tRANCEMASTER wrote:

i totally dis-agree to everything u said there... that song sux !! flight643, godd and dancevalley theme totally rool - and its not the fookin' artist that counts, (i.e. how famous) cept sometimes there is abit of hype about release dates and so forth.
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you are just just like those newbie music listeners dont knowing what GOOD music is
Think first before u say something!
U just got pulled by the media, just the way flight643, danvalley2001 and godd are pullled by the media

and if you say that song sux, I think you dont know anything about trance music

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eh... how can u say that ?? you named three tracks, which last year u would of been shagging !! and anyhow - i have that shitty tune on vinyl (so maybe it was good at one time) like the fookin' other tunes.

tut... u spoke quite nastily about me in that post... no need !!
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Sorry for that, but you have to say that tracks from well known producers get more chances for growing to the top. And why? because of the money.
There are lots of more MUCH better tracks out there than flight643 eg.
who are not so much appreciated by most people. And thats what I wanna say.

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fair does m8... thats your opinion.... and i respect u for it Very Happy
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I agree TranceSeeker but i like the Oliver Klein Rmx of Flight 643
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This song really really really sucks!!! It doesnt get much worse than this....no hooks, too slow, nothing catchy at all.....very boring...I hear this and I wanna shoot myself in the head it bores me so much. The only reason its not popular iz because its one of the worst songs I have ever heard!!! You would have to be extremely depressed to enjoy muic like this. It turns out that you Tranceseeker dont have a clue what good music iz. Check yourself dude!
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This song really really really sucks!!! It doesnt get much worse than this....no hooks, too slow, nothing catchy at all.....very boring...I hear this and I wanna shoot myself in the head it bores me so much. The only reason its not popular iz because its one of the worst songs I have ever heard!!! You would have to be extremely depressed to enjoy muic like this. It turns out that you Tranceseeker dont have a clue what good music iz. Check yourself dude!


moewhahahahahahahahaahaha. I dont know anything about music????
LOL. Come to my home and we'll have a conversation about trance.

I will tell you something buddy.
I think YOU dont know what really good music is. U just dont like this track because its from an unknown producer. BUT whohohoho what if this track was from ferry corsten or avb or who else famous in the trance world. Then u would like it. Just dont listen tracks by forwarding your seeking bar in winamp. I think thats the problem with you.
U r just a person influenced by the media and charts. U r the person who says: "Ohh, flight643 nr1 on the trancechart (btw flight643 isnt trance), then IT must be good, so I like it too"

But people who know what good trance is, will agree with me on this one.
So I dont care what people like you say about trance, everyone has his own opinion about music, but there is more out there then those hyped up tunes like flight643, dancevalley theme2001 and godd, just to mention a few.
Thats why I appreciate music from sasha, max graham, james holden, etc... more then those raised-to-heaven-by-the-media-tracks
Not that all tracks raised by the media are bad, no way!!
but those 3 I mentioned are.

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Dreamcore wrote:

This song really really really sucks!!! It doesnt get much worse than this....no hooks, too slow, nothing catchy at all.....very boring...I hear this and I wanna shoot myself in the head it bores me so much. The only reason its not popular iz because its one of the worst songs I have ever heard!!! You would have to be extremely depressed to enjoy muic like this. It turns out that you Tranceseeker dont have a clue what good music iz. Check yourself dude!


moewhahahahahahahahaahaha. I dont know anything about music????
LOL. Come to my home and we'll have a conversation about trance.

I will tell you something buddy.
I think YOU dont know what really good music is. U just dont like this track because its from an unknown producer. BUT whohohoho what if this track was from ferry corsten or avb or who else famous in the trance world. Then u would like it. Just dont listen tracks by forwarding your seeking bar in winamp. I think thats the problem with you.
U r just a person influenced by the media and charts. U r the person who says: "Ohh, flight643 nr1 on the trancechart (btw flight643 isnt trance), then IT must be good, so I like it too"

But people who know what good trance is, will agree with me on this one.
So I dont care what people like you say about trance, everyone has his own opinion about music, but there is more out there then those hyped up tunes like flight643, dancevalley theme2001 and godd, just to mention a few.
Thats why I appreciate music from sasha, max graham, james holden, etc... more then those raised-to-heaven-by-the-media-tracks
Not that all tracks raised by the media are bad, no way!!
but those 3 I mentioned are.



of course diggers music is TOP NOTCH. and so are alot of other GLOBAL UNDERGROUND artists. the only reason there music is not hyped by the media is because its progressive music. progressive music is very underground. alot of trance is hyped by the media because its above the surface. its trance that lit the fire basically. so people are out to SEEK for trance first. not progressive.

and no sh*t there are alot of other songs thats better than those 3 you mentioned. but let me tell you this mr. smarty pants. there maybe amatuers who just get these tracks and just love em because they feel obligated too. but there are still those people who really know there stuff and appreciate tracks like GODD and FLIGHT 643 because they are GOOD tracks. if you say GODD is a bad track. you gotta be fu**ing kidding me. do you have any idea how intelligent the rhythm in that song is? i dont know if you produce. but i do. and let me tell you. its not a one day process coming up with those kind of loops and rhythms. just because your dumb ass(the so called know it all) doesnt think flight 643 , GODD are bad tracks, doenst mean it really is. ok? your just like the rest of those typical commercial media music hating dudes. see your trying to point out that some people like these media hyped music just because they are in the charts right? well your one those people who hate on media hyped music because you think they SHOULD be hated on. all you people stick together. music is music. dont diss on peoples tastes.

so so dont come around assuming sh*t around here at i-vibes. dont think your the only one here whos a professional in electronica.

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plz read my last two sentences before replying....

I didnt say that all media tracks are bad, NO WAY!!!
But i wanna say that there r more GOOD tracks out there and BETTER ones, but because they are not well-known (not in the charts or not hyped up) they are NOT or LESS appreciated by people because they dont want to appreciate the track because its unknown or less-known.
k, maybe bad formulated sentece but u know what i mean

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hey... god tranceseeker - u slate everybody for their opinion, and think that your opinion is HIGH and ALMIGHTY - i respect u for your opinion, cept i think u could be a bit more suttle.
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I just wanted a GOOD discussion thread but everone seems to see me as a bad person now.
I respect everyones opinion, I just wanted to know what other people think about that.
But if they attack me I attack back Smile

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i also think that marco v - godd is sucks but i like
flight 643 - it's a great track for clubs - with a lot of energy it make you
fell like dancing!
so dont say that we hear from the media or the charts is what we like!
cause i hated dance vally theme also!
and i dont know what pepole find in marco-v godd !!!!
but every person have a diffrent taste in music - some like progressive and some like uplifting/vocal trance - so you need to respect other pepole
opinion - you think that flight 643 is sucks? fine by me
i'm downloading almost every track that i see... - NOT BY THE ARTIST WHO CRATE IT! - so now i'm downloading your tune (KONKRETE - LAW ONTO MYSELF) and many more..
so if he good then i hear it if dont - delete it - simply as that!
also i saw that john '00' fleming remixed it - so what do you say now?

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this thread is about konkrete - law onto myself
I was just wondering why this track dont get as much admiration as those I mentioned.
I saw some kind of thread on tranceaddict and there are probably more ppl who agree with me. So the more opinions we have the better Wink

BTW this is just the same for "traveller - bright sign"

cyaa guys and dont hate me now because I have another opinion then you

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now that is a tune i can dig... thanx for that tip - wot a tune !!

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tRANCEMASTER wrote:

now that is a tune i can dig... thanx for that tip - wot a tune !!

Smile


Its an awsome track but it never became famous,
For me it has the same effect as konkrete, so maybe now u know what i mean by saying "these tracks dont get as much admiration as they SHOULD get"
im happy you liked it Smile

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hmm... maybe i didn't make that clear - i agreed with that :p, and i know what u meant - i think i was just sayin' i didn't like it...

i'm confused now Confused hehe - but that is a cool tune (traveller - bright sign)
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now give konkrete another chance too and u become my friend Very Happy
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your so right - i was listening to my vinyl again... it aint bad at all, and the John '00' Fleming Mix is pritty decent too !! Very Happy
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traxx like marco V - godd, tiesto - flight 643,
Why are they so popular?

If some else produced one of these 2 traxx, would they be so popular as if they are right now Question
If Marco V - godd , was called , f.ex "Omnibus - Godd", would u have heard of it Question

Idea
Secret of the success of these 2 traxx is;
*The "Names" of the producers,
*good marketing,
*good discography's,
*good biography's
*being owner of a record label(in tiesto's case),
*good connections with other famous dj's,
*The internet.(especially when you're a well know producer),
*a high ranking at the dj top 100.

Top producers can get away with a lot of cheesy traxx these days.
Don't get me me wrong , they're very good producers ,
but these 2 traxx are just lifting on the success of their other productions.

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Well there IS someone who agrees with me ! Smile
Nice words

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I agree with you TranceSeeker, Konkrete - Law Unto Myself was an awesome track, it reminds of Planet Perfecto - Bullet In My Gun. And you're right it is very underrated. But thats becasue of various reasons, Spydar mentioned a couple but its also DJs. With trance trying to become more mainstream and in its own right commercial, DJs are starting to stick to the tracks and producers which now everyone knows. Crying or Very sad

Just MY opinon.... Smile

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i dont think its under-rated, just inder played... tiesto is spinning a load of underground tunes these days - and his danceroom set rocks, so maybe i'll play it a bit more.. who knows ??
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I hope it gets more spinned!!!!! Smile
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I tink that Dave Davis - Resource is underrated to
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