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Where do you think trance is evelving to?.... is it getting more -> progressive-> techy-> tribal-> harder->melower ??
Where would you like to see it evolve?.... where do you think it should evolve away from?
Who do you think is leading the way right now in regards to innovation?
I think the following are innovaters:
Randy Katana aka Katana
Steve Murano
Gabriel & dresden
These guys are the bizznizz!
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Trance is getting more and more mixed with other genres; especially progressive og techno, but also some house og chill-out! These artists is leading trance into new directions:
Randy Katana, Ferry Corsten, Ron van den Beuken, Outback, Vincent de Moor, Solid Globe, Photon Project, Filo & Peri, Arksun, Rank 1 (with some of their upcoming tracks), Markus Schulz, Elevation, F&W etc, etc.
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Steven H The Earthquaker Club Franchise Owner
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I also agree with Vincent De Moor & Ferry Corsten of course...
I like the tribal club sound that katana created with one solid wave. I think that this track is my #1 favourite track of all time... cuze it roxx
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Im not a fan of where it seems to be going to to be honest.
I think Steve Morano is awful (IMO) Im moving more to Euro style now (Italodisco etc)
Everyone seems to be ripping Benny Benasi these days too.
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I think truly uplifting trance is dissappearing - there is still some melodic trance, but not much that is really uplifting and "happy" sounding. Prog is mingling with trance; I think it is moving towards prog.
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Steve Murano is good, because he has used some original techniques, in vocals and the structure of a track. I think he has crossed some new lines in some of his remixes. Especially his mix of terraformer which was extremly uplifting yet held true to his newly invented style.
Uplifting has been around a long time and as with all genres it either changes completly or moulds into something new.
I like certain areas of where its going but dislike some, however I like more than I dislike, which is good i guess..
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I suppose we should all welcome change, as we'd soon get fed up of one particular style
The good thing is,
People will change bits of every genre, and then each takes a different approach to evolving.
So out of 6 trance artists, theres bound to be at least 3 who move into something likeable
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| Trance is going the way of the Dodo.
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There is cirtanly more proggy meloedic stuff bangin out at the moment. I'd like to see more uplifting pumping stuff and take trance back in that direction rarther than boring prog.
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| i dont thin prog is boring.... its one of the best styles to hear on a huge system because its got such a driving feel too it..!
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Actually, trance is regressing to it's roots. Look at the tracks today, the tracks from 98-02 (what is usually called trance; which is wrong), and trance from before the huge melodic explosion. Artists like Tilt, Robert Miles, Banco de Gaia, Juno Reactor and many others made true trance. It's starting to sound like it did 10 years ago, so I really think it's going on a regressive thing right now, and will probably explode with a new, radical sound sometime in the future.
For example: take a new track like Piece Process - Solar Myth, or even Motorcyle - As the Rush Comes, and compare it to older trance tracks...the similarities are striking.
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| Steven H wrote: | | i dont thin prog is boring.... its one of the best styles to hear on a huge system because its got such a driving feel too it..! |
Agreed! You gotta listen carefully and to more than just a couple of artists, then you'll like it....
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I think trance is going the wrong way. Tracks from'98-'01 had a special feel, dunno what it is.... Todays tracks seem to lack this 'feeling'.. I'm not saying todays tracks are bad, but I just feel way more affection with the older ones. For example, the track Out Of Darkness by Fire & Ice is a track that can really make me go mad...it's just fantastic...the energy....simple, but awesome.. Todays trance-scene seems to lack tracks like that... Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
I do like the fact that EDM is expanding, the appearance of new styles. I can really enjoy progressive and alot of other styles nowadays. People getting into contact with other genres/styles can only be a good thing IMO.
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| well all genres get more complicated in souns as they progress, so thats why its not as simple anymore. a regression could be possible, but if there is one I doubt it would last long..
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| Viceroy wrote: | | I think truly uplifting trance is dissappearing - there is still some melodic trance, but not much that is really uplifting and "happy" sounding. Prog is mingling with trance; I think it is moving towards prog. |
Totally Agreee
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I can say that trance is not like the trance of 98-2001 ! today's producers in my opinion try to "rewrite" tunes like those of 98-2001 but they can't do it so well..i guess they miss somethin ! in general nowadays trance is a very happy trance !It has the feeling "listen to the dreamy perfect world which is so happy" ! old days trance used to be like "world sux we dream about the perfect world (Utopia-Pure Euphoria) but we are not there yet" i don't know if u are getting me.......but is somethin like that
I would like it to evolve through progressive or even some techy feelings to be added some more effects
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| prSc wrote: | | I think trance is going the wrong way. Tracks from'98-'01 had a special feel, dunno what it is.... Todays tracks seem to lack this 'feeling'.. I'm not saying todays tracks are bad, but I just feel way more affection with the older ones. For example, the track Out Of Darkness by Fire & Ice is a track that can really make me go mad...it's just fantastic...the energy....simple, but awesome.. Todays trance-scene seems to lack tracks like that... Do you understand what I'm trying to say? |
I think tracks made today are better technically, better synths, and maybe arranged better, but I agree with you that sometimes the energy is missing. There are still lots of artists and tracks to get excited about, though - but there are fewer, I guess you could call them anthems or classics. Nothing like Gouryella that EVERYONE interested in electronic music knew and loved.
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| ^ Agreed! That's what I was also trying to say!
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I think that trance is kinda stuck at the moment
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hehe i think we all kind say the same thing! trance ANYHOW needs a refresh well i think it will be refreshed and to be honest its up to us if we want it to change
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trance is better then ever in my opinion! maybe its because im older and its evolving around me now but i still feel the same buzz from the progressive sound and the melodic sound that i did from the cheesey, uplifting trance '98 and '99. people like m.i.k.e. (push), john '00' fleming, perry o'neil and many new artists are really grabbing my attention at the moment - not just for productions but dj styles as well! hope trance continues to grow stronger and that everyone likes what they like! the spirit will never go away then!
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dance music on the whole is evolving. even musical tastes...
unfortunately, i think hiphop/r'n'b has taken hold of the club scene by the neck in many places around the world. sad. i can't even call it hiphop no more, especially when you grew up listening to gangsta rap, the shit they dish out these days are a shy and sad representation of what hiphop is really all about.
on the upside. breaks, trance, techno and house all getting some good work done these days. especially the first 2.
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Trance has gone too commercial, seems cliche but it is true. You got a few labels producing mediocre stuff that everyone is digging. I wish more producers would stop making ASOT stuff, just put out quality tracks, without selling out. Armin's ASOT bores me to death, most tracks are in the same mold and they make me think, why is so many producers doing it in the same mold
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| Andy P wrote: | | Trance has gone too commercial, seems cliche but it is true. You got a few labels producing mediocre stuff that everyone is digging. I wish more producers would stop making ASOT stuff, just put out quality tracks, without selling out. Armin's ASOT bores me to death, most tracks are in the same mold and they make me think, why is so many producers doing it in the same mold |
Couldn't have said it better!!!!!! Totally agree with you
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| Andy P wrote: | | Trance has gone too commercial, seems cliche but it is true. You got a few labels producing mediocre stuff that everyone is digging. I wish more producers would stop making ASOT stuff, just put out quality tracks, without selling out. Armin's ASOT bores me to death, most tracks are in the same mold and they make me think, why is so many producers doing it in the same mold |
I can answer to ur last question bro! when u make music just to be signed and when the purpose is the glamour and the fame of the VERY GOOD and respected producer (either u are or not) u produce something that is already acceptable ! in other u go with the flow and u make that flow more solid
So the way to the change of the trance to something better is only through the true feeling of each producer! each producer should produce something he/she feels inside him/her! i think this is what is lost when everyone goes with the flow and so trance gets commercial
P.S when i say u i meant to refer to whoever acts like i desdcribed not a specific person in here:P
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| I don't think trance is really evolving that much, which is a good thing in my opinion. artists like Gabriel and Dresden are making tracks that are maybe in between but by no means are they changing the genre of trance. Its not like all producers are starting to take on Gabriel and Dresdens style. The majority of producers still stay true to the fundamentals of trance. Like for instance Matt Hardwick, Above and Beyond, Robert Nickson, Ronski Speed, matt silver & tony burt, endre, sonic vibe...
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| Andy P wrote: | | Trance has gone too commercial, seems cliche but it is true. You got a few labels producing mediocre stuff that everyone is digging. I wish more producers would stop making ASOT stuff, just put out quality tracks, without selling out. Armin's ASOT bores me to death, most tracks are in the same mold and they make me think, why is so many producers doing it in the same mold |
I would hardly call this selling out or commerical. If they starting producing music in the commerical style of Scooter, than yeah.
But then, I've never listened to ASOT.
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| Legacy wrote: | | I don't think trance is really evolving that much, which is a good thing in my opinion. artists like Gabriel and Dresden are making tracks that are maybe in between but by no means are they changing the genre of trance. Its not like all producers are starting to take on Gabriel and Dresdens style. The majority of producers still stay true to the fundamentals of trance. Like for instance Matt Hardwick, Above and Beyond, Robert Nickson, Ronski Speed, matt silver & tony burt, endre, sonic vibe... |
I will have to disagree!! only Robert is in the case and a little bit matt! the ppl are in the case is M.I.K.E ,Airwave,Jurgen Layers Rusch,Greg Murray,Elusive
and maybe some times Ronski Speed Produces some fine tunes
now i mean look on the tracks of Above and Beyond! ok they have the best sound quality around! they use the best synths the best voices etc but the melodies the compilation of the sound they use is something superficial for me! remember what is used to be trance and what is supposed to be today:UTOPIA other worlds etc anw..... i am not here to reduce anyone's production job the guys are really trying to get a top quality! I just think that maybe it was a good thing to add some more on the styles the root of the trance and remember why we all try to create trance
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all valid points, but uplifting is the one that more like the 'roots' ... i think the other genres are there for people who have heard just about everything there is to hear in the genre... with the exception of the odd really great uplifting one... just my 2 cents
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the synths and effects are better than ever these days
but originality on the other hand has gone worst
when a new song release it has 50% chance that it's a remix of an oldie or copyed from other tracks without even giving credits
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