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I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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.. and whats wrong with ian van dahl ??
most tracks are true "hands up in the air" styletracks.. proper good to hear in night clubs...
if "castles in the sky" ever comes on anywhere.. the whole fcuking place will dance like pr*cks..
.. and btw.. i wud class them as trance... but i guess they are on the dancey end of the trance genre
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oops didnt mean to post twice.. hehe
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Ian Van Dahl ect. I would, say is not Trance in it's truest form it's more of a hybrid what I call Pop-Trance
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lol!
Ian van Dahl, Sylver, Lasgo and others are just european dance, derived from Trance I think, but too commercial. All 4 of them come from Belgium, so their music is very similar.
I agree with what you said...
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commercial music. it's like cans of spam at the supermarket.
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QbIx wrote: | Ian Van Dahl ect. I would, say is not Trance in it's truest form it's more of a hybrid what I call Pop-Trance |
that being said, i actually like a handful of Lasgo & Ian van Dahl tracks.
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Andy P wrote: | I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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I've never classed, called or thought of them as trance. That type of music is Euro-pop, you could say trash but thats a little light, a bit *beep* is a term I use.
They give trance a bad them because they are classed by some folk as trance.
if you like their kind of stuff, fair does, but it aint for me.
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It does give trance a bad name for sure. I like to call it cheese.
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nice to see people not fooled.
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I dont refer to them as trance, but I can see where people get the idea from, its because these compilations like Ultimate Trance 2004 and Trance Anthems 2004 and Club Anthems has trance in its slogen etc... and all these compilations have songs by these artists on them... so the big companies who put out these compilations play a big part in it also...
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Andy P wrote: | I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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haha i soo agree with you there
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technics wrote: | Andy P wrote: | I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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haha i soo agree with you there  |
then again, you can call them "intelligent" b/c with their mainstream styles they are probably making more papers than most of the trance artists out there.. just look at hip hop as an example, ppl like p-diddy and 50 cent changed up their styles to compensate for their loss of income if they were not to do so
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Castles in the sky is a trance song in its remixes, but as origin its just a usual dance track even though its very good, but all the remixes are even better, and you can find hard trance remixes, melodic trance and god knows what more you can find,
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DJ_Null wrote: | lol!
Ian van Dahl, Sylver, Lasgo and others are just european dance, derived from Trance I think, but too commercial. All 4 of them come from Belgium, so their music is very similar.
I agree with what you said... |
Sylver was very popular in the underground-scene long before their no1 hit became popular and classified them as commercial artists.
If I'm not mistaken they called themselves Sliver at first...
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its trance, commercial trance! if you choose not to like it - its your decision...
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Some people in this thread need to get a clue. They are commerical dance. The more "energetic" side of Pop. I cannot believe some of the posts I hav read in this thread.
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Its crazzzy
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Andy P wrote: | I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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How u can judge it's or not Trance, u think only good stuffs are Trance ? sorry but i listen to shitty Trance regularly and sometimes from supposed great artists, so Trance is not automatically good...
Just to tell u that i like
Flip & Fill with Shooting star (Cj Stone remix)
So if i follow u, CJ Stone is doing shit too, no ? he remixed a shit...
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Oren wrote: | its trance, commercial trance! if you choose not to like it - its your decision...
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... well said fella
alot of the music i like.. would never be played on radio or tv over here (england) so i wouldnt class it as commercial .. yet in europe its all over the place.. so europeans do..
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Andy P wrote: | I'm sick and tired of people on here saying Ian Van Dahl, Flip N Fill, Lasgo and other SHITE groups as trance. They never were trance and never will be trance, will you stop posting about them on this board because it's plain wrong to call it trance. If you want to post about it, use the proper term that it should be called TRASH!
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Ahhhh finally someone that says what most of us wanna say
Quote: | its trance, commercial trance! if you choose not to like it - its your decision... |
don't even mention trance near it cause it brings a really bad reputation to the real trancegenre.. so call it dance, ok? or even better germandance cause most of that shit comes from Germany (Especially Hamburg )
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commercial dance, euro pop whatever you want to pigeon hole it as. There have been a few artists do remixes for the commercial producers, lange & M.I.K.E have both done mixes for Ian van Dahl. Just because they do a mix for them does not class them as what the original tune is.
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If companies want to sell it and ppl buy it, go ahead but I'm sick of marketing ppl syaing TRANCE when it is not then again it won't change.
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davehart wrote: | commercial dance, euro pop whatever you want to pigeon hole it as. There have been a few artists do remixes for the commercial producers, lange & M.I.K.E have both done mixes for Ian van Dahl. Just because they do a mix for them does not class them as what the original tune is. |
True like the Alphazone remix of "Try" is a awesome tune! Aswell as the Airscape remix of "I'm Your Pusher", The Taucher remix of "I'm Raving" and Signum remix of "Faster Harder Scooter"
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Yes it's so anyoing! I watched Ztv some months ago when they started to talk how all the "trance producers" are doing covers of old tunes.. As examples they took tunes like Dj Sammy - Heaven etc..
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Trancemaster wrote: | Castles in the sky is a trance song in its remixes, but as origin its just a usual dance track even though its very good, but all the remixes are even better, and you can find hard trance remixes, melodic trance and god knows what more you can find, |
i agree! some cheese can me remixed to add new flavor to mix and become an awesome trax to suit your flavor of trance!
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its just euro-cheese
this is how it goes
bad- - - - - - - - - - sorta ok - - - - - - - - - - good
they are two completely different worlds
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Ola guys u make me laugh, tell me the difference between a commercial trance tune and an underground trance trax ? the promotion ? the sound...lol, every artists use the same material, sounds...etc....
I just want u to tell me wich artists are good trance maker and wich are bad or commercial just to compare...
and don't give me Britney Spears for example
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Who freakin' cares? It all depends on your point of view anyway.
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Never heard any of those artist but I guess its all about the money?
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Viceroy wrote: | Who freakin' cares? It all depends on your point of view anyway.  |
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