Why should it be like this?

Trancemaster · **Posted:** Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:03 am

There is so many "bad" music producer out there that has get know because of their better marketing.

How should we do to liftup all good music producers and pull down all bad?

Dont like when they are stealing the Trance scen for the really talent ones!

Spherix · **Posted:** Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:23 pm

Trancemaster · **Posted:** Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:17 pm

davehart · **Posted:** Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:02 pm

You could say what does a producer what. Lots of money or a good reputation form producing quality tracks? You can have producers who have make a good buck but really do make quality tunes because they belive and like what music thye produce.

Then there are those who produce unoriginal, boring covers with no real music creativity or thought gone into it.

There's no point getting into a "Lets hate all commercial / bad producers / money making producers", taking sides, bitching and all that bollocks. The best way you can support the artist you repect because of their music productions in to buy their records and nothing else.

Viceroy · **Posted:** Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:37 pm

Trancemaster · **Posted:** Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:39 am

davehart · **Posted:** Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:29 pm

Its down to availability as well I think. As quality trance is always released on 12" with only a few on CD its not always available to those without a source to play it, so they buy the hi-street comps labeled "trance" and get started at the wrong end the scale.

Viceroy · **Posted:** Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:31 pm

But from the more commercial producers people can move to real trance. I don't buy vinyl, it's just not possible, so I buy all the major comps and download other songs. I'm always months behind hearing the new releases though.

Trancemaster · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:26 am

Viceroy · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:16 pm

davehart · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:32 pm

I think the point Vice is trying to make there is one of availabilty. Especially in canada where there are little (that I know of, vice will know more about that than me) places to get hold of the latest releases. With shipping and handling its just not a finacial option to get them on imports because they cost bucket loads.

The point Vice is making is that he supports it in the best way he can buy purchasing the major and quality trance CD releases that come out and download the tracks that simply are not available to him. Im the same, if I can;t buy a track, I will try to obtain it, but if it ever comes up available to get, no questions I'd but it. You dont want to miss out on qulaity trance because its far too expensive to import it, just play the waiting game until its released in your area.

Viceroy · **Posted:** Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:07 am

As usual, Dave is dead on, thanks for clearing that up. Smile

Vinyl availablity is very limited. If I want vinyl I must order it through European retailers or labels. It translates to about $15 per record, but of course many times shipping is extremely high. Take Above the Sky records, which has a typical policy. Shipping for one vinyl is 6 pounds. For a standard vinyl costing 6 pounds, the total with shipping is 12 pounds, which translates into $26.95 not counting whatever taxes that are tacked on by both the Canadian and British governments. That is pretty frickin' expensive for one 12". Particularly as I am a student working part time at a crappy job.
So I buy quite a few compilations, I try to keep reasonably up to date in buying these. They are much cheaper, although I hardly ever get to hear the new songs. Crying or Very sad