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Rob3rt

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Public Message from Airwave

Friends, colleagues and fans,

today I was shocked to find out that all new tracks of my album are already downloadable on several servers.

My album "Believe" is scheduled for release after summer..... only i don't know if I should proceed finishing it...

This is really demotivating and it is jeopardising the future of all artists, record companies, publishing, advertising and many more related businesses.

What can i tell u more.......



Airwave



this sucks.. Sad

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its the price we pay tho... i guess.... we cant have the best of both worlds.. Razz

.. tis a shame that mp3s fcuk up artists and producers - but i aint gonna stop d/l'ing music... Confused

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Thing is though, harsh may it sound, im sure if he/they were only in it for the love of the music he/they would not be bothered about the financial loss. Mad Mad Surprised

plus the fact that these tracks are already available will surely be good promotion???? i mean if people like the airwave stuff they downloaded then surely its going to encourage people to buy more of their material when it comes commericially available in the future ??

or if only several tracks are available on the net, im surely people will buy the album to get the rest.....

but i would be a bit fcuked off it was me like...but theres always a postive side to everything Wink

thats my view anyway

aah fcuk it just blame ze Germans!!

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Thing is though, harsh may it sound, im sure if he/they were only in it for the love of the music he/they would not be bothered about the financial loss.


err, well if you put your heart and soul into the work, and then sum idiot goes and releases it well before its even out, come on few days/a week b4 the release might have not dazed him that much, but leaking out well b4 (this is mths were talking about) that is absolute pure stupidity, that one act has in a sense probably "cheapen" all his work, that has probably just zaped a fair bit of motivation and drive and any unfinshed work that he's gonna complete, most likely wont have the heart in and the quality suffers, seriously i cant think of 1 postive thing bout this, if you reading this that released the mp3's.. in hindsight was it worth releasing mp3's, Evil or Very Mad


its not that the artist usually cares bout the money, rather than the label that more often determines profitabilty, and if they dont see that there gonna make money, then they wont release it, and they usually make more profit than what the artist does, in end of the day the artist needs the label companies to release there stuff, and if this is what the artist is thinking, just imagine what the recording companies thinking now..


and this probably just personified mp3's in all the negative aspects even more, i bet right now airwave hates those 2 letters and a number M P 3, i dont blame him, its probably one of the nightmare scenarios that all artist dread, and that now its happened, this lil event might shape and rethink the future, maybe they might not be so trusting and this example is gonna be in the back of many of their minds


just hope airwave can recover from this and that it gives them a greater resolve and push to be defiant in the face of adverstity, and given enough courage and spirit, airwave can show us truley what music is .. and can be, in spite of all the difficulties, after all airwave have dun so much so far and have the respect of many..


and hopefully we can set an example and show that we can support them, and possibly restore sum faith in, that as fans we do not support what happened, and give him enough reason to push on and finish what many have been eagerly waiting for!!!!!

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hehehe.. you always write loads ami Razz
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Fair enough but shouldnt artists have somekind of method for preventing thier work being leaked. if the proper security/procedures was inforced then the artist should have no problems???

but i supose its all well and good saying this because im sure in reality inforcing strict security is not allways that simple and trusting people not to leak your work is another matter.......but either way its a bit of a sh.it situation for airwave. but im sure airware is not the only artist to suffer from this...and hopefully will learn from it and keep doing what they do best...
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Mathew wrote:
hehehe.. you always write loads ami


err, that a bad thing, maybe getting tired of reading all that text?


NUFC_TOP_OF_THE_LEAGUE wrote:
Fair enough but shouldnt artists have somekind of method for preventing thier work being leaked. if the proper security/procedures was inforced then the artist should have no problems???


im pretty sure they got security arrangements in place, but more than often any material they make inveitably gets passed to other ppl for important work, but the issue is how far does he have to go in terms of security and trust, as if he starts to restrict personal freedom and other related things in the name of security, then im sure it'll start affecting his work, either way whats happened has happened, and its already had consquences, all he can do is to limit the effect and damage this has caused, plus when you factor in that it was his first solo album of his career
an all, that just about says everything

it seems no matter what stuff will get out, look at hybrid's/BT studio theft a while back, this can almost be construed as being the same thing, Sad , is this gonna keep on hapening in the future, or are there gonna be changes to prevent this from happening in light of things to come.. who knows.. but if anything happens its already too late for Airwave Sad

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Ami wrote:
Mathew wrote:
hehehe.. you always write loads ami


err, that a bad thing, maybe getting tired of reading all that text?


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I posted this on the Tranceaddict form. People who know Tranceaddict know it's a place where people can download a ton of trance mp3s, so their forums are quite biased towards free distribution of music.

Many people commented on the whole 'if he loved the music' thing. Many people took it one step further and called L.Vee a whiny b*tch. But the overwhelming thing people said was that MP3 has a helluva lot to do with trance's success. Speaking as a person being on the wrong side of the Atlantic, trance-wise, let me tell you that it's almost impossible to get your hands on anything trance except crap compilations with the latest from Ian Van Dahl or ATB. Maybe that's not completely the case in New York or SanFran, but that's the case in Canada's capital.

The truth of the matter is that to a producer/DJ, releasing an album is simply one more step up the 'trance scene ladder'. Once you have an album you get videos, a tour, and now have something that the normies can buy out at HMV and MusicWorld.

Although I can imagine it being frustrating after slaving for countless days in the studio, the real money lies in the recognition of Airwave's name, and the subsequent DJ/Live bookings. Since MP3s give us an opportunity to hear how good Airwave is, I feel this helps his name and helps him get bookings.

Any promoter who has tried to book these artists knows how much they get. The only people this affects are those at Bonzai. As a CD-DJ who gets most of his tracks through mp3 because I can't get it anywhere else, I don't feel for them. If I could go to the Bonzai webpage, pick any track off the site and buy 192kbps mastered for MP3 versions of the tracks for a reasonable price (say 2$ per track) then I would LOVE to do it. No more hunting for full length versions, the right remix, etc. They make money and I stop getting harranged for labels not getting with the times.

Airwave is awesome, and L-Vee has a right to be pissed. But not at the people. How can someone be reasonably pissed because people WANT his music? He should be pissed that Bonzai isn't making it available properly. I wouldn't be able to BUY a copy of this cd for less than 27$. I'd have to import it and wait like 2 and a half weeks. I refuse to buy vinyl because it's a backwards medium. So what can I do?

Thoughts?
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agree totally mate. even some quality trance cds are hard to get in the uk, so u have to get them some how. good idea about the mp3 purchasing from sites, i rckon that would work..but there will allways be a way to get them for nothing...
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Damn, hope he does end up goin through with it, Airwave is a mighty fine producer, and i was looking forward to the album...


Wait & see, i spose

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